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Five teens were in court Monday for their involvement with a fight that broke out at Triangle Town Center Saturday night.
The brawl started around 8 p.m. Saturday night, causing Triangle Town Center officials to close the shopping center early. Police arrested a total of seven people, including a 15-year-old, whose name has not been released. At the peak of the brawl, between 200 and 300 people were involved and one officer cut his knee while chasing a suspect.
Javonnie Nicholson, 16, was the first of five to appear in court Monday. She and her mother filled out an affidavit for a public defender. Authorities say if Nicholson is convicted, she could face up to 23 months in jail. According to Nicholson’s mother, her daughter is innocent.
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Nicholson said it seemed everyone was fighting, she was scared and says she gang symbols.
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"They were showing their colors,” Nicholson said.
She also said she witnessed the 15-year-old being stabbed in the buttocks.
"I just saw a lot of people jumping one boy and stabbing him,” Nicholson said.
But according to police, she wasn't an innocent bystander. She’s charged with inciting a riot, assault on an officer and trespassing. She said she's innocent and was trying to get to safety when police stopped her.
"I was running toward my friend to get my friend in the car, I guess he thought I was charging him and he just slammed me,” Nicholson said.
Nicholson's mother, Della, said she never thought a trip to the mall could land her daughter in court.
"I never in my wildest dreams knew that all was going on,” Della Nicholson said.
The others who appeared in court Monday are:
Tyrell Eugene Brantley, 18, and Darryl Anthony Bobbitt, 18, face 15 months in prison if convicted. Both were released on a $5,000 secured bond into the custody of his guardian. They have been ordered to have no contact with the alleged victim and now has a curfew of 6 p.m. to 6 a.m.
Laquavis Oneal Jordan, 16, is facing misdemeanor charges. He was released on bond into the custody of his parents.
Christopher James Gamble, 17, who faces the most serious charge -- assault with a deadly weapon in relation to the stabbing. His mother said to her knowledge her son is not part of a gang.
"I really don't have too much clarity on the gang perspective part but, I know that my son wouldn't stab anybody he's more passive than I can even explain,” Coley said.
Gamgle could face up to 98 months in prison if convicted. Gamble was released on a $35,000 secured bond and faces the same curfew as Brantley and Bobbitt. Gamble used to attend Millbrook High School, but is now home schooled, according to his mother.
Ricky Ladd Williams, 16, was released on a $15,000 secured bond because he is currently on probation for conspiracy to commit robbery. The judge ordered him to be under electronic house arrest.
All will appear in court again Aug. 18.
People who visit the mall said that the very idea of something like that happening caught them off guard.
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"I'm surprised that it happened, but I'm not worried about it," said Al Robinson.
"It's kind of weird. I mean, at a mall? You don't usually hear about big fights," said Christine Hansen. "Especially involving how many, like 200 people."
"The chances are there was not enough security down there," said Frank Mosher. "And it probably was started over something really stupid."
Police say the catalyst was gang-related which, according to a press release, means it "occurred to further the purposes of the gang."
Some people say that part of the story is not surprising.
"There's been a lot of gang-related stuff recently," said Hansen. "Especially in schools."
Rachel Whitaker says the incident is giving her second thoughts about going back anytime soon.
"I go to the mall with my little girl, so a mass fight of that capacity, it kind of worries me just a tad bit," Whitaker said.
But at the same time, she says she's not sure there's anything mall security could have done differently.
"You can't control who comes in and what they're doing while they're there, so it is what it is," she said.
Mall officials declined an interview request, but say they're working with police to see if they need to make any changes in their security plans. Mall officials also met with their employees Sunday morning before the mall opened at noon.
Violence at malls isn't exactly unprecedented; in the last few years there have been at least one other stabbing and a shooting at other Triangle area malls.
Bryan Gilmer, spokesman for The Streets of Southpoint said the mall there already has appropriate security measures in place.
"Providing a safe place for the community to shop is our top concern every day of the year," he said. "We operate under a customized security plan [that] includes patrols by both our private security officers and off-duty law enforcement officers we also hire. We also have a shopper code of conduct that we consistently apply to ensure a safe environment."
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By Eric on 07/29 05:30 PM
Colorblind, I guess your narrow focus is too short to understand sarcasm. Big Money was in reference to the amount of money I as a teacher make with regard to caring about the welfare of the children of our community. Secondly, what you make is irrelevant to me especially if you aren't doing anything with it in the community.(Side Bar, if I didn't work, my annual income is 6 figures. I work in the school system because I am tired of leaving the education our youth to those who could care less about them. So don't make ignorant comments. The same ignorance you used in your initial comment is the problem that I spoke of. Reading is not recitation. The object of reading is to comprehend what was read. It is not to call words. If there is something you did not understand, the intelligent thing to do was to ask. That however, is neither here nor there.) The point is, is that we need to start holding all responsible including ourselves for the education of our youth. Parents can't be with their kids 24/7. If you carefully read my post, I noted that it is not always the parents fault or blame for their kids actions. Regardless of your upbringing, they know right from wrong. It's about choices and being responsible for the choices you make instead of parents and others enabling them to continue their bad behavior because they allow it. Secondly, I agree with the majority of your post. And thank you C.T.
By vicki on 07/29 07:29 AM
these kids that think they are so bad by being in a gang, most all of them have priors, they need to be put in jail for some time. they all need to be sent to Iraq, if they think they are so bad. we have good young men and woman fighting a war that we don't belong in and then we have these idiot kids who think they are so much, send them over there in Iraq, let's see how bad they are then.
By C.T. on 07/29 02:20 AM
colorblind....i'm pretty sure eric was being sarcastic about his "big money".
By Teri on 07/29 01:47 AM
Mark shut up. u sound ignorant, banning blacks??wow its not like blacks are the only people who do things like this.Im tired of people thinking that its always blacks causing the problems that is ignorant. Its also ignorant that people feel unsafe at the mall or on capital blvd,etc. Things like this can happen anywhere, in my opinion u should not feel completely safe anywhere, u never know what someone is thinking.Or what they may do. Gary,Eric,COLORBLIND-people who know what their talking about.
By COLORBLIND on 07/28 02:01 PM
ERIC, that's the point that I was trying to make. I don't know what BIG MONEY you make, but I do well myself, probably better than you. BUT that's kind of the point, these kids have nothing and instead of people trying to help them out and find them something/someway to do better themselves they'd rather talk down to them and make them feel worse about themselves instead of better. I don't judge anyone by the color of their skin, but it's easier for whites to raise kids than blacks. AND that's not the parents fault, it's the way the world is made. Furthermore, you can do all the raising you want to the best of your ability, but when kids are not around their parents, it's a whole new ballgame. I'm really tired of putting the blame of the parents, these kids are adults!
By Eric on 07/28 01:06 PM
Everyone is so busy trying to point out the flaws of everyone else when the concern should be, "what can I do to influence the attitude of todays youth to put a positive image in front of them." It amazes me that everyone on this post has been so concerned with race instead of the welfare of the children involved. I guess as a teacher, that's why I get the big money because I am more concerned about the child's welfare!
By COLORBLIND on 07/28 12:54 PM
Why does RACE have to play a part in everything? If everyone would pitch in and try and save everyone's kid then maybe we'd make it somewhere. I'm a black woman and I'm afraid of ALL COLORS! Life means nothing to today's society. You all want to ban BLACKS w/their pants sagging, but what about the SERIAL KILLERS. can you see them coming? Are their "po' white trash" parents to blame? Lets look at the news this week.. CARY, FORT BRAGG (TWICE), TENESSEE, SCHOOLS!
By Eric on 07/28 12:51 PM
This post is interesting yet sad to read. First of all, let me say the I am 36 year old African-American male who is from a small, poor, rural town in NC. My immediate response to this is, why is there so much focus on the race of the individuals involved? Race Should be an irrelevant issue in the case of criminal activity as it should be in any aspect. We do however know that is not the case. The stereotypes being discussed in this post are perpetuated mainly by the media but by some of the same individuals who cry victim on every occasion. Mr. Grimes, I do need to correct you on your evolution of "sagging." Education point - Sagging began as a form of containment for slaves on plantations. Slaves were given pants that were too large and without belts in order to make it hard for slaves to run as to deter escape. It has then evolved into a Jail or thug fashion. If it was know by most youth that the reason this fashion is prevalent in jails is that it lets other inmates know how "available" you are based on how low you wear your pants. I agree that from a self respect standpoint, it is ignorant to wear your clothes this way. Any young man who knows me will pull his pants up if he sees me, comes near me or visits. My son's(18 age) friends can have their pants sag, but I guarantee you that they pull them up before they get to my house. The perpetuation of this fad is not limited to AA males. So if you tolerate bad behavior, why expect anything different. I see more non-Black kids disrespecting their parents, teachers and others of authority on a daily basis in the schools. That's not news worthy though. As far as the parents being blamed, I meet kids who come from the most loving families who are just as arrogant and disrespectful as these so called bastard children people on this thread speak of. The teaching mechanism given to all children is that of not letting your circumstance define who you are. My girls go to the mall on many occasions just to hang with their friends. They are not loud, disrespectful, rude, or unruly. Therefore, Black or African-American does not constitute thug, criminal or vagrant. Also be advised that this is not a case of kids being kids. We have to stop enabling the bad behavior of the few that main stream media and close minded individuals perpetuate by allowing them a pass. And for the record, the number of non-Black criminals in Wake, Durham, and Johnston Counties is 2x's that of the African American criminal population. Does that mean that sect can be construed as a criminal group as well? Tasha, don't let the ignorance of the majority of posters here get you in a tizzy. Ignorance is a funny thing. It is the one area of life that sees no color! This country was built on the backs and through the sweat and toil of our fore-fathers. Teach one, reach one.
By NONRACIST and AA on 07/28 09:25 AM
Another thing. The sagging pants is done by just as many kids outside of the AA race as in. Check your statistics on who buys the most hip hop and rap music because at last check, more than 70% of it was bought by white children. Blarring music comes from cars with people of all races.
By NONRACIST and AA on 07/28 09:16 AM
It is a shame that the race card seem to always come out when there is a group of black kids that get in trouble with the law. "Kids will be kids!" No. Kids are a product of their society. They watch and learn from the people around them and they learn very well. Let's take it away from the black kids right now and enter the white suburban area where we have the kids ganging up on another one because of what she posted on myspace. Let's talk about the mother and daughter that posted the fake myspace page and the young lady that committed suicide. Let's talk about the kids in their parents garage, and the parents having NO IDEA, yea right, that their kids are building bombs. Let's talk about about all the kids that have walked into the schools with THEIR parents' guns shooting up kids and teachers. Let's talk about the kids who actually record the stupity of beating up on other kids of their race. Let's talk about the murders in the news lately where the pregnant military women, jogger, and chldren come up missing and NO ONE HAS A CLUE WHO DID IT BECAUSE "MY SON IS INNOCENT AND NEVER COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THAT." Get off the race issue because the drama happens on both sides of the track. We all need to take control of our children. Some races are glorified in saying that the child had ADHD, sexual abuse, or some type of other problem and that is their EXCUSE for what they did, while other's, it is their lack of parenting, no fathers, or the sagging pants that causes the problems. I myself am a SINGLE parent of four, with a fulltime job, working on my master's, have served over a decade in the finest called the MARINES, and is doing a damn good job in raising my children, ALONE. STOP BLAMING THE PARENTS! CHILDREN MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES AND WE SEE IT IN ALL RACES. COME TOGETHER FOR A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS INSTEAD OF SHOWING AND TELLING OUR CHILDREN HOW TO KEEP THE RACIAL PROBLEMS GOING BECAUSE YOU TEND TO ONLY WANT TO SEE THE PROBLEMS AS STEMMING FROM OTHER RACES AND NOT YOUR OWN.
By letsbereal on 07/28 01:15 AM
What is the confusion! They all were black. They started the riot! What is the debate in this issue. It was gang related! Black gang related! Why can't the African American people just accept that and move on?? Why can't they ever just take blame where it lays and move on??? Maybe if they did we could all live in peace.
By Elaine on 07/28 12:05 AM
Race issue aside, I am shocked at how many kids are at a mall on Sat night unsupervised. Is there really nothing else for these kids to do? 200-300 kids?? I mean, really?? Granted these are older kids, but they are still kids, and I myself as a parent would have a real problem with my kid going to a mall to "hang out".
By r u kidding on 07/27 11:16 PM
Raleigh, Durham, does matter the venue of this mall. When thug, rap star idiolizing, public school truants, of a youthful black demogrpahic get together in large groups [in such a manner] it amounts to nothing good. All they intend to do is start trouble and intimidate others [most likely towards their own kind]. Wake up Black America. Take back your a children. You are losing a whole generation. This is not a white man talking, those are the concerns of Dr. Bill Cosby. A black man, who actually deserves respect.
By Ben on 07/27 10:27 PM
Why don't all of you do something positive for your children and the community instead of wasting racial remarks on deaf ears. Go donate some time and money at your local community center. One adult can change the lives of hundreds of children.One parent getting involved, find out where your kid is and what they are doing! If they don't answer the cellphone ground them, turn on the gps on the phone. You all can afford ringtones but the 1.99 a month or FREE gps to track your kids when they are out late is an invasion of their privacy and waste of your money. That's why they are kids and we are adults. Get over the racial bullcrap and let's get to the bottom of the problem, lazy uneducated parents, selfish and uninvolved. Every time I go in a public place it always amazes me how the parents pay the children zero attention then wonder why they merge in gangs to feel wanted. Did you see all the kids getting onto the public bus after the fight? I want to know more details before passing judgement over 7 bad seeds in a crowd of onlookers.
By ronnie pollard on 07/27 08:37 PM
Im sure none of the punks know who thier fathers are while there mothers are hittting the crack pipe, while the thug want a bee's are out doing nothing but starting trouble. and of course like animals they are in packs. Obama would be proud
By Jim on 07/27 08:14 PM
Its a shame but this is the future. Go to any mall in the larger cities of the US and this is not that uncommmon.
By bLoOTer on 07/27 06:42 PM
This is a lot easier to solve than you would think, and is being done in malls in other states. 1. Set-up a police sub-station in the mall that is staffed on weekend nights by police. 2. Issue the police the same fire extinguishers of pepper spray that corrections officers use in jail riots. 3. Pass an ordinance that makes rioters 100% responsible for (or in the case of juveniles, their parents) any injuries to non-participatory bystanders. 4. Impose enhanced penalties on those who unlawfully use a weapon against someone during a riot. 5. Put in better mall cameras.
By Concerned Citizen on 07/27 06:26 PM
Difference between Rights and Privileges: These punk kids should be required to attend public places with their parents until the age of 18. Rights: Anything posted under the constitution! Privileges: Driving: Stay off the road if you plan to act like idiots (this includes blaring music, thumping the bass, and tailgating). Once you are caught causing problems this privilege should be revoked and you walk! Malls/Public Establishments: These are PUBLIC places where everyone has the "right" to shop. However, once you begin to disrupt the lives of others, it's time to remove yourself. Malls were designed for shopping, not for causing trouble. Take your issues home! This includes restaurants, putt-putt, go-carts, ice-skating, sporting events, and even concerts. Education: Come to school but follow the established guidelines or quit. Many students are there to learn, not to be bothered by inconsiderate teenage children. It is NOT ok to act out in front of families because you are part of some group…..who cares? I for one could care less and have other things to worry about. Stop thinking about your spoiled selves and apply to enter the real world. Think about it, children dying everyday because of cancer, accidents involving families, losing loved ones to natural causes, and I could go on. Take yourselves to Duke Children's Hospital and visit the children who will not be here tomorrow or a retirement home full of residents suffering from many illnesses including Alzheimer's. It's time these thug children grow up and are held accountable, like NO MORE gatherings in public places. I hope many of them fail to reach their set bond and are forced to stay in jail awhile. Unfortunately, their parents are home yelling they are innocent and are remarkable citizens……gag! Or blaming everyone else, I am so over hearing parents complain about how perfect their children are!!!
By James Grimes on 07/27 06:25 PM
Tasha, we have to "put this color thing behind us"? But it was the black "thugs" that first started sagging pants when they first came out of prison. And its mostly blacks having illegitimate kids--despite knowing that having kids this way is the number one way to end up in poverty. Black America needs to wake up to reality--"whitey" is no longer the problem; they need to look in the mirror.
By Kevin on 07/27 06:11 PM
Let's have any and all gang members meet in a Gladiator Bowl at Carter-Finley Stadium. They can meet on the field with one rule: no guns. All other weapons or means to kill, maim and destroy one another okay. (knives, axes, swords, etc.) Gang members may wear no proctective gear. Maybe they will all kill each other adn this world will be better off without them. Sell tickets, proceeds go toward Education. Stay away from the mall, especially the collard green section.
By Tasha Smith on 07/27 06:10 PM
Reading this saddens my heart because on almost all comments they are saying BLACK KIDS me being a 18 year old female knows that its not only our BLACK KIDS causing promblems. I will admit yes our black parents has to do a better job raising us but we must put this color thing behind us because the white/mexican or anyother race is just as bad as us. When it comes to sagging black guys are not the only ones yes white people and all the other races do it. And black people we have to do a better job this is a disgrace to let the white people see us especially the youth go down like this.
By Nobama on 07/27 06:05 PM
Children just being playful???? Since when is stabbing being playful??? I wish parents would start taking some responsibility and stop blaming the education system and 'kids just being kids.' When you have a child, you have the responsibility of raising that child - hopefully to become a positive contributer to society. I think it's sad that I can no longer feel safe while shopping at the mall.
By Mr. Dobbalina, Bob Dobbalina on 07/27 05:40 PM
Mark, I must say that your comment of "So let’s ban all blacks and people with exposed underwear. That’s a good solution to me… LOL" is one of the most ignorant comments on this topic. Why not just leave the color of the skin out of it and say ban large groups of kids and kids with underwear showing. I have personally seen lots of kids, of many races, with the baggy clothes and the underwear or shorts exposed. Not just BLACK kids. Maybe if the mall security would pay more attention to the security monitors, they could see things coming. I do agree with the curfew of kids under a certain age group that are not shopping or working. If the security guards, if you call them that, notice that kids have been hanging around for more than an hour and not making a purchase of anything then they should be asked to leave. Also, the security group should hire more and better personnel. I know when I go to the mall and see the security people, I think to myself, "If something was to break out, what in the HELL would he actually do?" Some of these guys look like if you jumped from behind a corner and said "BOO" they'd piss themselves. I personally visit this mall frequently and dont find the teenagers a threat to me. Whether they're black, white, asian, hispanic or whatever they may be. Bottom line, security needs to step their game up, whether it's hiring better personnel or having uniformed police officers patrol the grounds also.
By James Grimes on 07/27 05:33 PM
When you walk down the street with your pants sagging, a shirt 2xs too big, and using slang for other people of one's own race, I am going to thing of the following: you are a thug; you are from the hood; you are uneducated; you probably have a single mother or your father is just never home to discipline you; you need to be spanked in the butt a few times with a belt. All stereotypes had to start somewhere.
By mr.critic on 07/27 05:08 PM
If there are as many white people as there are black people at the court house... that means there are as many black people as there are white people. Considering the percentage of the white population vs. the black population in our country, that speaks a lot. Think about it.
By Nonsense on 07/27 04:24 PM
"By Relampago on 07/27 01:04 PM This incident was clearly nothing more than cute, playful, mischievous young people having some fun." I hope you are kidding, I don't recall going around being a nuisance to society and stabbing others (as a child or any other time in my tax paying life) in the name of promoting ethnic diversity. wake up people! When your caught red handed your guilty no matter your color, trends speak volumes... a spade is a spade is a spade....
By Cracker McWhitey on 07/27 04:18 PM
Since there are children having children in our society, this problem is going from bad to worse. The race police and the leftist media rats protect and defend these THUGS every chance they get. Jackson and Sharpton will be here soon with their bullhorns.
By Relampago on 07/27 03:58 PM
Look at the photos of these young people. How can anyone be hostile to youths with such innocent cute, playful, mischievous faces? Do men not see in the photos themselves during their teens and do their cherubic faces not bring out a woman's maternal instincts? And some of you would not go back to the mall because these youths were having a little Saturday fun? I think not -- you'll go back.
By Just-want-to-shop on 07/27 01:48 PM
Malls are put in place for people to purchase different merchandise. It is extremely disturbing to read about what the police were doing wrong or not doing fast enough! It is frustrating to see CHILDREN (which the last time I checked I'm stiil responsible for my 17 year old)by themselves breaking the law, and putting others in DANGER. Over "turf." Why don't we ask where the parent's are and why aren't they there quicker...or at ALL? The whole "race" thing is generated by education...or the lack there of. If you scream the "race-card" at every little thing you will ALWAYS have ignorance! Right is right, and wrong is wrong. When I go to the mall I just want to shop in a safe place. Kick the kids out if they aren't with a guardian regardless if they're Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, Etc. If they are not shopping GET OUT!!!
By gary on 07/27 01:04 PM
Ok fuddy duddy you are taking it to far i understand that yes somtimes black's bring it on themselves. I also realized that when you go to the court house you see just as many whites there for the same thing blacks are there for. that name calling lets please stop it because yes it could get very ugly. I also was there last night and yes i was disturb to see you black act in such a way but i cant let the actions of just a few determine the view of my race and niether can you.
By FudyDuddy on 07/27 12:30 PM
It Will jj. It will. Do you think those punks actually buy anything in the mall? Maybe the retailers will force the mall to do something. If you have kids middle school or above, you know exactly who causes the trouble in the malls, in the schools etc.. Facts are facts. The truth will set you free.
By FuddyDuddy on 07/27 12:21 PM
So violence and crime is part of black culture? Just repeating what you said. Glad to see you admit it however.
By jj on 07/27 12:14 PM
Needless to say that when I was reading this story I was not at all shocked that the ones arrested are black. Racist comment? Nope, just the truth and fact. Pick up an issue of the "Slammer" and what race is most in that magazine? Need I say more? It is a shame that great leaders such as MLK fought and gave his life for pathetic ignorant teenagers as these who contribue nothing to a productive and normal soceity. It is idiots like these who keep racism alive. Think about it. I will NEVER shop this mall again. I think as this story gets out Triange Town will see profits sink.
By Relampago on 07/27 12:04 PM
Black youths are an integral part of one of America's greatest treasures and should not be disrespected. This incident was clearly nothing more than cute, playful, mischievous young people having some fun. It's their culture and fuddy-duddy conservatives must learn to accept such culture to promote ethnic diversity.
By MissLady on 07/27 10:57 AM
Thank you Gary.To the others who want to make outlandish comments about the black youth.Don't do it.Not all the young people that were out there were black.While I was there,around 8pm,there were people of different races.Personally I saw seveal fair skinned teens running up and down the hall of the mall like they were outside.All of this did not start until after 8,get your times correct.Putting a label on these folks is saying that I am an "angry black woman." Not hardly!I counted how many police cars were on the way to the mall,in total there where 20+.I was on my way to crabtree and had to turn around to go back to get my cousin.Wouldn't you be mad if you had to leave the premises of a place when you were doing no wrong?How about if your only mode of transportation is the CAT bus and they only stop inside the loop of the mall?Black teens are loud?Not hardly...sure there are some people,white,black,brown, yellow,that are loud and obnoxious but not all the teenagers that were there.Another issue I have with the comments left is banning black with their pants hangging!That's insane!Tell me you do not see latinos and white children walking around doing the exact same thing.If you have not seen that then you must live under a rock.I listen to "urban radio" just as much as the next person.I am active in my church community,I go to work everyday,I also have a 5 year old daughter.Sure you can have your own opinion,but making assumptions about myself and my culture is not only crazy but so untrue.There is nothing expired on my car,I do not have a handicap sticker hanging from my rearview mirror,or walk around being loud.Some of the people that were at the mall that were riding the bus that night might have been going back their college campus.Does that sound like the hood to you?How about Garner,Knightdale,Wendell, Zebulon?Do any of those places sound "hood" or look like it?All of the above named places have gang problems too.Intimidation is based on the way someone looks.The way I look,I'm pretty sure may intimidate some people.I am by the way a 6' tall woman who likes to laugh and have fun.You would never know anything about me unless you were to get to know me on a personal level.The one request I have is to look at yourself in the mirror before you make a biased judgement about someone who looks differet than you.There is only one person who can judge.Last time I checked you were not Him.
By Clyde Morgan on 07/27 08:46 AM
I curbed my visits to Triangle because of all the kids. Being intimidated is as bad as being assaulted. Thriangle should follow Northgate's policy concerning curfews and kids using the malls for meeting places and confrontational places.
By Gary on 07/27 07:01 AM
Ok i understand that most of the children may be black. But lets get real, you guys act as if all black people are loud and obnoxious. I personally take that as a slap in the face. I myself is half black and white and i have learned that white people can get just as rude as the other "race" can act. So lets not just point out black people as if they are the only one's with behavioral problems, have you seen super nanny LOL white children, exactly. Plus the mall is where people go in groupps to hang out and shop i feel you should just keep closer look on people who may be in a group not banning them.
By C.T. on 07/27 01:55 AM
It was nice that after they were all kicked out of triangle town mall, they decided to cross the street and go to target. Can you imagine 100 teens jaywalking on a street on a Saturday night?? That's just dangerous for everyone. And there were only 3 police units in sight. Teenage girls were sitting on ALL the curbs. Swearing up a storm as i drove past them with the windows down. And a five year old in the back. Unacceptable behavior. I think the best solution here...is that some parents should just give their kids a good whipping.
By GG John on 07/27 01:42 AM
GG, nice call John. Among all the other problems our society faces these days, I'd say lack of respect from youth is right up there at the top. I thought, but may be wrong, that crab tree has an ordinance stating that teens and/or groups greater than 5 need to be accompanied by adults? I may be confused with a mall up in the Richmond, Va area.
By tryton77 on 07/27 01:02 AM
It's hard to make them all leave the property when they all have to wait for the bus to take them all back to the hoods. I'm just a little disappointed that I did not read the words "deployed mace" in this article :)
By James Grimes on 07/27 12:52 AM
Ban all person's under the age of 18 without an adult past 5pm unless working at the mall (with uniform on). Each person under the age of 18 must have an accompanying adult.
By Nobama on 07/26 11:25 PM
Hilarious Hope and No Change! You made my night!
By Raleigh Mall Goer on 07/26 11:24 PM
We went to the mall tonight, taking our toddler to go play in the indoor playground and get some ice cream. It is a shame that if this did in fact start at 7:30, the police that pulled in by the food court did not show up until a half of an hour later. Right when we parked and got out of the car, we heard sirens and saw the police cars fly to the front of the food court. We went ahead and went into Saks and thought that maybe this was just some isolated incident. Once inside the mall, we saw lots of AA's...mostly kids/young adults in large groups slowly leaving or just standing around. It seemed like 90% of the people in the mall tonite were black. While I have no prob with any group of people, this is not the typical make up of the mall on Sat nights as we go there often. It is a shame that it took the police so long to respond. The mall needs to make it policy that kids cannot be unsupervised under a certain age. I have seen large groups of kids hang around and some have been rude and act like they own the walk space. I just wish that their parents would lead by example, all too often, these kids are the way that they are because their parents act in the same manner. Why the mall didn't report that the kids involved were black, is beyond me. Must be all the PC crap going around. Just ridiculous when the facts can't be reported.
By John on 07/26 11:20 PM
praise the new messiah http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece
By Hope and No Change on 07/26 11:05 PM
Thankfully, After Obama becomes President this sort of thing will stop and the birds will sing and the French will like us.
By John on 07/26 10:58 PM
PAUL the MALL is called "triangle town center", not "a triangle area" ,everyone in raleigh knows it and the GANG PROBLEM especially on saturday wkend nights, there is no anti-durham conspiricy, sorry, though that GANG video produced by durham gangs was very disturbing and didn't help durham so durham still ranks hands down the larger gang problem, thankfully they mostly just kill each other except for the occasional Duke or Carolina student....
By No Doubt on 07/26 10:58 PM
Did anyone have any doubt as to the who caused this when you first heard about it?
By John on 07/26 10:52 PM
dufus no one said ban blacks, though you should pull your pants up (wear a belt) and TRY to stop grabbing your little "d" nice try to claim "victim" staus to a cultural blight , glorification of criminal/ gang culture, after ALL the sacrifices of MLK and other men & women of character , SHAME, take note rev wright ,look in the mirror & RALEIGH WAKE UP we need more undercover /unmarked Police targeting this ( ticket boom boom bass, tint covered license plates, fake handicap mirror hanging thingy, fake/expired temporary tags etc all precusors to criminal culture lifestyle choice....
By Mark on 07/26 10:34 PM
So let's ban all blacks and people with exposed underwear. That's a good solution to me... LOL
By Paul on 07/26 10:30 PM
Interesting news break "an area shopping center was shut, will tell you which one later..." Wow- bet if it had been Durham, you wouldn't have hesitated to say which one- I had to go online to see this myself, and I was right- Raleigh, and along with another Raleigh murder. Sure glad I live in Durham- I can sleep safer tonight...
By Brenda on 07/26 10:22 PM
That mall has TONS of groups of black kids there on weekend nights. It's horrible, they are LOUD, very obnoxious, and disliked by mall patrons and the businesses. The Mall Security there is a JOKE! They need to ban groups of children without parent supervision. Too bad a group of people makes it SUCK FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
By bruce on 07/26 10:12 PM
banning large groups of teens without parent or guardian might be a bit extreme. there are teens who like to gather without causing problems. i feel that the security people need to keep a better eye on large groups and not hesitate to notify the police if they feel something is brewing. sure is sad though that this has happened. i hope no inocent people, especially young children or any elderly people got caught up in this.
By John on 07/26 09:58 PM
yes we were there, there were LARGE numbers of different teen gangs there walking around just looking for trouble, 2 african-american gangs faced off near the info center, words escalated by a mob of other teens rushing to see the incident as it blew up to a full scale fight/ near riot. Fast thinking store employees lowered the anti-looting security gates, renta-cop security was over-whelmed...... UNLESS mall management acts to put a stop to this non-sense we will never SHOP this mall evenings again. Possible solution, being that this is PRIVATE property ban teen groups without a parent or guardian PRESENT, allow no exposed underwear. MORE POLICE PRESENCE....
By Malik on 07/26 09:35 PM
i will stay tuned to this report
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